Microsoft Copilot AI Comes to LG TVs, and Can't Be Deleted(techpowerup.com)
153 points by akyuu 8 hours ago | 119 comments
- brokenmachine 3 hours agoSurely if Copilot was so useful and great, it wouldn't be free and they wouldn't be trying to force it down unwilling people's throats at every opportunity.
I'm beginning to think this AI stuff isn't all it's cracked up to be...
[-]- wseqyrku 10 minutes ago> useful
That's not even the endgoal they are aiming at. Suppose you have a data churning loop you want to run forever. First step is to send a copy everywhere (anywhere) and in whatever shape and form to feast. Otherwise it just sits there looking at the nuclear plant next door.
- jwr 5 minutes agoAs a reminder if you own an LG TV, turn off the sneakily named "Live Plus" thing. This "option" makes your LG TV spy on you, tracking and reporting what you watch based on the image that is shown on the TV.
You need to go to Settings -> All Settings -> General -> System -> Additional Settings to make sure the "Live Plus" option is OFF.
Check it periodically, as it sometimes turns itself back on again after updates.
The enshittification of our world is beyond words.
- GreenVulpine 11 minutes agoNever connect a smart TV to the internet. That's how they get you.
- pabs3 6 hours agoI wonder if it is possible to install a standard Linux distro on LG TVs. There is KDE Plasma Bigscreen for a TV-like experience on such distros.
If not, there are some webOS exploits on this wiki page:
https://wiki.debian.org/Exploits
Hopefully the Vizio lawsuit will mean the right to repair software comes to TVs more easily.
[-]- RayVR 4 hours agoI saw that rootmy.tv works for some versions of webos.
- reactordev 4 hours agoYou can absolutely jailbreak them and install whatever[-]
- KetoManx64 3 hours ago*If you have one that hasn't updated itself since last year.[-]
- dsp_person 30 minutes agoYa I regret updating mine. The UI both significantly slowed down, and lost the chance to root :(
- sangeeth96 5 hours agoFor similar reasons many years back when I broke the bank for a G2, I decided to disconnect it forever. Besides the always-on spyware, every update broke something, which is incredibly frustrating considering the amount I spent. For instance, I got a GX soundbar for free with the TV which worked fine for 1–2 months until some update borked it and made it glitch out randomly. To date, none of their updates seem to have fixed it. I now only connect it back to the web — if needed — once a year or so but even this needs plenty of careful research across the web to see if the update package breaks something else I take for granted.
Hooking up an Apple TV 4K to this thing was the best decision I ever made and the sheer performance of this thing puts every TV vendor to shame. I would recommend everyone to do the same if they're already in the Apple ecosystem.
[-]- boringg 5 hours agoI agree ive hooked up apple tv to override the crappy subsidized smart tv built ins that spy on you. That works until apple changes leadership and new leadership starts significantly mining data and caring less about privacy. It will happen at some point, not on Cooks term but someone else im sure of it.
- kankerlijer 5 hours agoIs it possible to use an LG without ever connecting it to the internet in the first place?[-]
- liquidise 26 minutes agoYes. You can install firmware updates over usb.
- tomkarho 2 hours agoI am currently using one that is prevented from connecting to the internet via firewall rules from my router and all media comes from a separate jellyfin server. Had to allow enough of an internet access to install the app but once that was done, everything going outside lan is blocked.
Also most tvs have usb ports so maybe either raw media or some third part dongle can service as well?
Also also, most tvs of this caliber have hdmi you can plug your computer to.
- netsharc 5 hours agoMaybe related: I bought an LG TV in 2014 or so, I was interested in what its calls home communicated, so I MItM'ed it to capture the http (no s!) traffic. I never did bother to analyze the requests and responses..
But I got a newer LG model 2 years ago, I was still redirecting requests to LG's servers to a local web server (using DNS), but I guess due to https, the certificate checks failed and the attempts to call home failed. This meant that I never got asked to agree to the T&As.
But of course many apps don't work..
- brokenmachine 4 hours agoI've done that with both LG OLEDs that I've had.
- stephen_g 7 hours agoMakes me more and more glad that I never let my TV on any network and only use it as a display for Apple TV, the Blu-Ray player, and playing media from USB drives...[-]
- goku12 3 hours ago> Makes me more and more glad that I never let my TV on any network..
Sigh! These manufacturers have repeated this so many times that it is probably in their corporate subversion manual now. This is no consolation at all. They first introduce 'optional' features like this. Then they tighten the screw such that you get degraded performance if you don't use that feature. Finally they make it unavoidable. How are we missing it every time?
Haven't we seen how this evolved in the case of windows login using their 365 account? Haven't we seen how Android smartphone unlocking and custom ROM flashing got gradually more difficult over the years until we can't do that anymore?
If you rely on compromises or shortcuts out of this problem, you'll eventually find yourself without any. We need to nip this trend in the bud. Punish them with a tanked market.
- tuetuopay 7 hours agoSame happy boat here. Mine has never seen the light of network access. I just don’t trust these things at all.[-]
- Macha 6 hours agoI left a relative house sitting, specifically told them to use the Xbox if they need Netflix etc, and of course they connected the TV to the wifi and just hit accept on everything. Luckily it was still new enough that LG hadn’t put out a patch to cram it full of ads yet.
After that I blocked the MAC address at my router.
- hapticmonkey 6 hours agoMy LG TV has been offline for the past 2 years (since I got it). I'm so much happier using the Apple TV.
I know people want "dumb" displays, but the reality is that these OLED panels offer industry-leading image quality and benefit from economies of scale, where most users want some form of built-in OS. A signage board cannot compete on price or quality. As long as TV manufacturers let me run it offline without issue, I'm fine with that.
Also fwiw, you can use apps like Infuse on the Apple TV for playing your own media files over the network. No Need for USB drives, just connect direct to the shared folder.
[-]- AnonHP 5 hours ago> but the reality is that these OLED panels offer industry-leading image quality
Except in scenes with fire (like a campfire) or where some spots may have high brightness compared to the surroundings. The LG OLED TVs I’ve seen all go blank in such scenes. The TVs I’ve seen that have LCD panels don’t have this issue. It seems like the only way to disable it (after turning off power saving and a few other things) is to buy and use a service remote to turn off ASBL. From my online reading, it seems like doing this may void the warranty and probably have negative effects on the life of the panel.
[-]- brokenmachine 4 hours agoI have an LG OLED and have never seen it go blank on any scene.
It just looks great all the time. Especially on scenes like you describe with a dark scene with bright highlights. Campfire scenes look great, space scenes look great. That's what OLED is best at.
If you're talking about ABL, I've only noticed the dimming on ads or powerpoint lectures that have fully white backgrounds, and I've been thankful for it at those times because I find all-white backgrounds too bright to watch anyway.
- drnick1 5 hours ago> I'm so much happier using the Apple TV.
Then it is Apple that is harvesting your data. They may or may not display ads (I don't have an AppleTV to check), but they are certainly logging your interactions and possibly selling that data with third parties. That is on top of all the data Apple already has on people using iPhones, and the reason why I will never use anything other than a free/libre ROM like Graphene or Lineage.
[-]- hapticmonkey 5 hours ago> Then it is Apple that is harvesting your data.
They quite literally have settings to disable that. There are no ads in the operating system.
https://support.apple.com/en-au/guide/tv/atvb66239fa1/tvos
I'm sure some conspiratorial thinking would lead people to the conclusion that Apple are secretly tracking and selling data. There is no evidence to suggest this is happening.
It's probably the next best thing to setting up your own linux home theater PC. But that comes with trade-offs with UX and DRM blocking 4K streaming apps and lack of Dolby Vision playback.
- malfist 5 hours agoIts terrible Apple is spying on you. But the alternative is to have someone spying on you and forcing ads on you. Sophie's choice.[-]
- KetoManx64 3 hours agoMini PC with Linux + Jellyfin + web browser.
- drnick1 5 hours agoI suggested in another comment a Linux HTPC or a Pi with a FOSS AndroidTV ROM as alternatives.
- toomuchtodo 6 hours agoApple TV is the best device for using Plex with a TV fwiw.
- bakugo 6 hours ago> As long as TV manufacturers let me run it offline without issue, I'm fine with that.
I suspect that this won't be the case for much longer. Once you've stuffed the TV with all the ads and data harvesting you can, the logical next step is to ensure it doesn't work at all unless those ads are being watched and that data is being harvested.
[-]- bdangubic 5 hours agoI have used a projector my entire life, I have no idea why this isn’t a “thing” (especially with HN crowd-like communities)…[-]
- nomel 3 hours agoif you have a family with daytime viewing habits, projectors are basically a no go. 100" tv, with better brightness and black levels, are getting down to $2k range. they only make sense for > 100", and you'll be sacrificing some quality for a bit of viewing angle, usually recovered by scooting your couch a bit closer. i like bright, which is why i no longer go to theaters, which never did make the transition to HDR that they promised over a decade ago.
- brokenmachine 4 hours agoI have a projector that I never use because I don't like the fan noise.
They're great for sports though. Hard to beat an entire wall of screen.
I prefer OLED for TV and movies though.
- dangus 4 hours agoI will point out, there are sometimes some really legitimate firmware updates that actually enhance or correct shortcomings on the TVs, especially for cinephiles on high-end units and for recently-released models that have firmware that needs work.
You can find people who cover the content of these updates, such as Vincent from HDTVtest.
What I tend to do is leave my WiFi off and then occasionally turn it on and connect for firmware updates, then disable it afterward.
I've also found that on my LG OLED that a lot of the crapware doesn't even have an option to function if you just never accept the terms and conditions or un-accept them. The UI doesn't make it perfectly obvious that you can do this but you absolutely can.
This stuff is very much anti-consumer, but can generally be mitigated by vigilant settings-chasing and a willingness to ignore the TV interface and use a dedicated streaming box with essentially no ads like an Apple TV.
- Animats 38 minutes agoIs it always listening? If not now, can it be changed to always be listening by a remote update? Can that update be selectively sent to certain users? Who controls which users?
It sees you when you're sleeping.
It knows when you're awake.
It knows if you've been bad or good
So be good for goodness sake.
- themafia 6 hours ago> Additionally, LG has a setting called "Live Plus" that Reddit users highlighted. When it's turned on, the TV can recognize what's displayed on screen and use that viewing information for personalized recommendations and ads. LG describes it as an "enhanced viewing experience,"
Ah. So it's not "AI." It's an "opportunity to spy on every single thing you do."
[-]- tzs 6 hours agoThose are completely separate. "Live Plus" is a TV setting that has nothing to do with Copilot and has been on their TVs for a long time.[-]
- baby_souffle 6 hours ago> has been on their TVs for a long time.
It's not just LG! They keep trying to shove "a return channel" into the latest ATSC standards for DRM and "enhanced / more accurate ratings".
[-]- 112233 2 hours agoHow do I check the TV in store does not have modem with esim? Or at least detect and disable embedded cell modems at home?[-]
- lxgr 21 minutes agoBluetooth is enough, theoretically, if they have an agreement with Amazon: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amazon_Sidewalk
And most TVs these days have Bluetooth.
ATSC 3.0 also specifies a dedicated long-range return channel with a range of many kilometers.
- iguessthislldo 38 minutes agoThe average person willingly connects them to their wifi, why would TV makers go through the effort and expense? Maybe I'm being too optimistic though...
- rockskon 3 hours agoAnd how long is a "long time", Mr. "It's old and boring that TV manufacturers do this so there's no point in being angry or complaining"?[-]
- lxgr 18 minutes agoOf course you can be angry at whoever you want, but it seems more productive to be angry at the entity actually causing the thing you dislike.
- measurablefunc 6 hours agoEvery AI company is doing the same thing, there is nothing special about Microsoft in this instance. If you're using a 3rd party provider for your queries you can assume it is going to end up in the training corpus.
- userbinator 5 hours ago"enhanced" (profit) for them, not for you.
- Kapura 8 minutes agoSmart TVs are maybe the dumbest product innovation of my lifetime. Ruining a perfectly good appliance with the addition of software. In 2025 it's literally a luxury experience to deal with computer bs less.
- mhitza 2 hours agoGoogle Meet comes by default on some Samsung TV, cannot be deleted, or disabled, and neither can the microphone permission be remove from it.
Smart TVs, more like Spy TVs today.
[-]- qwerpy 7 minutes agoYears ago my Sony TV came with Google Assistant enabled, and when I disabled it, it nagged me for a long time to turn it back on until I installed some launcher that finally shut off all the nags and full screen ads. The biggest button on the remote is Google Assistant and I have to keep a careful eye on whoever's using it so that they don't accidentally re-enable it.
- wantlotsofcurry 6 hours agoI've had an LG tv for a couple years. I was previously able to use LG's THINQ app on my phone like a remote to operate the tv. A couple days ago I went in the app to use the remote and the feature had been totally locked behind the "access local networks & devices" permission... This permission was never needed in the past 3 years yet now it's necessary for the same functionality.
So, I disconnected the TV from the internet, uninstalled the app, and bought an Apple TV 3rd gen. LG TV quality is great but their software is unbearable.
[-]- roblabla 6 hours agoWouldn't it make sense for a remote control to need to access local network & devices? Like, without this permission, the only way the controller would work is through a cloud service, so I would personally be pretty happy to discover the app requests this permission, as it would likely mean the app will keep working when LG inevitably shuts down their cloud server...[-]
- malfist 5 hours agoYou're giving a lot of charity to LG. They're probably trying to fingerprint people with the extra permissions
- eklavya 6 hours agoI am surprised it wasn't needed till now. This needs a lan connection and definitely will need access to local networks.
- blrbtrp19 7 hours agoOld Microsoft learned from the Clippy debacle, and more recently from the Windows 8.1 modern UI debacle. I'm not sure new Microsoft will learn this time...
- animuchan 42 minutes agoOh this is perfect, one less vendor to ever consider.
- amanzi 6 hours agoI have an LG TV purchased about 3 years ago. It had a bunch of "AI" features from day one, but mostly related to improving the picture quality dynamically based on what's on the screen. I disabled all of that stuff, so I guess I'll be disabling this too.
The LG software is horrible on this TV. Great picture quality, but I would never recommend an LG TV just because of the software.
[-]- pfych 6 hours agoIt's crazy to read this because I came from a Samsung TV/Display - LG Software is so much better than that!
Really wish we'd get dumb displays with these great panels :(
[-]- jojobas 6 hours agoSo far nothing prevents you from spending $100 to set up LibreElec on an RPi and leave the TV offline and dumb.[-]
- SV_BubbleTime 5 hours agoThis is what I do, but… Kodi sure seems like it is on the downhill. Multiple things don’t work for me like HDR for one example.
I’m looking to see what I would get or lose with Apple TV or some Plex/JellyFin/other player with less baggage.
- jzacharia 4 hours agoI'd pay triple for an LG "dumb" TV. This is outrageous.
- cebert 7 hours agoI don’t think Microsoft realizes that this is not a positive for their brand.[-]
- MrMember 7 hours agoIt's a positive for a nameless middle manager somewhere who can show their boss a graph with a line moving to the right and up with a title like "AI Adoption Across Platforms" and hit their bonus target.[-]
- DeepYogurt 6 hours agoThis is 100% the why.[-]
- Uehreka 3 hours agoWhenever I see this much vehement agreement about something on HN, it sets off serious groupthink alarm bells.
Idk what the answer is, but it is not 100% this. It’s too simple and satisfying of an answer to be true.
[-]- dijit 42 minutes agoI understand what you mean, but it does match MBA/mckinsey thinking very closely.
Make a metric a goal, work tirelessly towards that new metric.
Does it make the product better? Well, the product is already made- so it doesn’t make a difference.
It’s only software developers who think a product is never “done”- normal MBA thinking is “we have invested in R&D, now there is a product, how do we get as many users of our product as possible”.
- rolph 7 hours agoif you work in a restauraunt, and decide salt is cheaper than sugar, and fill the bowls like that, someone will find out, like your manager.
telling your boss we are selling sugar, when its actually salt, is a good recipe for footgunning.
[-]- weikju 6 hours agoNo, the boss is asking for more salt. Employees are then replacing sugar with salt and getting bonuses, no matter what the customer reactions are.[-]
- colejohnson66 6 hours agoAnd then word gets around that you put salt in coffee instead of sugar, and people stop going to you. Unless you’re the only deli in town.[-]
- weikju 5 hours agoBut all the other delis are doing it as well. So is your supermarket. So is your farmer (somehow they figured out how to add salt to the veggies they sell at the farmer's market!)... Whaddya gonna do? Grow your own? THE SEEDS SHALL HAVE SALT TOO, has been decreed...
- reactordev 4 hours ago“We’d like to introduce you to Copilot Enterprise”…
Yes, the only deli in town. Office, Server, Desktop, now your TV, pretty soon your car.
- baby_souffle 6 hours ago> And then word gets around that you put salt in coffee instead of sugar, and people stop going to you.
Right, but that's somebody elses problem a few quarters from now.
[-]- malfist 5 hours agoI got my promo for increasing salt adoption, what do I care? I'm jumping ship next week
- lamontcg 3 hours ago> Unless you’re the only deli in town.
pretty much.
back in the before times, we broke up AT&T, but we don't do that anymore.
- readthenotes1 7 hours agoAccountability and responsibility are not so clear and large, insanely profitable, behemoths like Microsoft.[-]
- themafia 6 hours agoYea, and that's the reason we pay taxes and tolerate a government, they're supposed to provide a counter force to this apparent corruption.
- hiddencost 6 hours agoYou've clearly never worked at a large tech company[-]
- shermantanktop 6 hours ago“In Q2 our P0 goal is to deliver Project Footgun. Your focus on delivering this important goal will put us in a good position to finally fund your favorite tech debt projects.”[-]
- malfist 5 hours agoIts now Q2, you worked your ass off on delivering Project Footgun, excitedly signing in the next morning to work on that tech debt to a message from your manager that the PMs didn't see value in the P1's and were transitioning to Project Footgun 2.0 The Shotgun
- bobbybarnaclebb 7 hours agoThey don’t care. The customer service era is over.[-]
- nerdponx 6 hours agoIt doesn't matter if consumers don't like it if everyone does it. The only choice remaining then is to put up with it or not have a TV at all.[-]
- binary132 5 hours ago“Not have a TV at all” is a perfectly reasonable choice many people are making now.
- hyperadvanced 6 hours agoYou can get a 10 or 20 or 30 year old TV. They still work.[-]
- goku12 4 hours agoI see that we have already entered the post-apocalyptic scavenging stage?
- drnick1 5 hours agoYou can buy a "smart TV" and keep it offline. Use it as a monitor for a PC running Linux, from which you stream from your browser or dedicated apps like VacuumTube (Youtube Leanback).[-]
- goku12 4 hours ago> You can buy a "smart TV" and keep it offline.
For how long? Eventually, it will end up like Windows login. It won't work without an online account. In the meanwhile, they will soft corece you into adopting it by using passive aggression. They will slow down the bootup to a crawl, unless you connect it online. Those times are already really bad - CRT monitors used to heat up faster.
The ultimate point is, if you have to make compromises to retain your rights, then you might as well have no rights at all. You're already well on your way there.
- SunlitCat 4 hours agoSadly, you get sometimes forced that "smart stuff" if you want it or not.
Had to order large tv sets at work, got LG ones. Working mostly fine as dumb displays (for some connected device, delivering the pictures and using HDMI ARC to switch on both at once) but here and there, users are put to the home menu of the LG TV if something fails and need to click through some icons to get to the HDMI input and if you dare to connect them online you get that "Update" notification, when an update is available (even when you disabled auto update).
- rolph 7 hours agoits none too good for LG either;
also: i think this sort of behaviour is exactly how you chill updates of any sort. it may take a while but when it is publicly salient that updates are sophies choice, and large pie slices of devices stay stock and unconnected, that will dry up that watering hole.
paranoia regarding un-updated devices will give way to paranoia regarding updates being used to screw you into something you would never consent to.
[-]- klipklop 5 hours agoNext step is having cell modems in the TVs so you can’t stop updates and invading your privacy.
- happymellon 3 hours agoI've had this with Android updates.
When you remove my ability to see if a Bluetooth device is connected with a security update, why would I willingly install any more of your updates?
[-]- stackghost 49 minutes agoWhich update are you referring to? I don't have this behavior on my Pixel, which updated itself yesterday.[-]
- happymellon 11 minutes agoIt was the Samsung Android 15 update from earlier this year.
https://www.reddit.com/r/samsunggalaxy/comments/1kjjeqo/how_...
- senectus1 6 hours agothey wont take much of a hit on the brand because of this, so they'll make up for that in marketing elsewhere.
this will however give them huge amounts of information... its a loss leader for them.
- arjie 2 hours agoIt could be worse. You could have Alexa on your Samsung OLED TV that triggers in response to something random you say while watching your TV then self-cancels but leaves the TV in a no-audio state until you power-cycle it (standby to live will not suffice).[-]
- animuchan 35 minutes agoOh I know this bug! Happens with their own Bixby assistant too.
(Either Samsung dropped the ball on quality in the last 5-10 years, or I just started to pay attention, but the desire to throw this garbage in the bin is real.)
- yunnpp 6 hours agoThe worm propagates without human interaction.
I only wish my systems to defecate its corpse soon.
- yalogin 6 hours agoWhy? If they want to even embed copilot, they could have atleast been strategic about it!! Copilot has this image that has something to do with coding, average person doesn’t care be bit about it and see ut as an invasive pest[-]
- ungovernableCat 4 hours ago>Why?
Because wallstreet just needs to see that AI adoption number go up. No one really cares about if it's accidental clicks, or hell just mandatory running in the background. We just need that number to go up, and next quarter it has to go up even more.
- baby_souffle 6 hours ago> Copilot has this image that has something to do with coding
To the audience of this site, yeah. But "copilot" is Microsoft trying to brand "an agent/assistant". They use it across their entire product line; copilot is in office so you can ask for help with spreadsheet formulas and in outlook so you can ask for help with summary/triage... and it's in VSCode/GH.
Microsoft saw the way the USB people absolutely screwed up the marketing/branding around different generations and speeds and capabilities and said "I bet the same strategy will work spectacularly well for us" and thus _everything_ became copilot.
[-]- olyjohn 5 hours agoI still think that most people don't know what it is. There's so much shit getting installed on peoples TVs / PCs / Phones that they didn't ask for, I think that they just ignore it like they do SPAM.
Back when IE was king, nobody even knew what the hell Internet Explorer was. They just clicked the blue E thing to get to Google.
- tzs 6 hours agoSo what does it do? In the discussion yesterday no one covered that.
From what this article says it is an app (which fits with how it is displayed in the screenshot), which suggests you would need to choose to open it to actually have it do anything.
- dzink 6 hours agoThe customer era is over when advertisers are paying more than customers. The advertiser era is over when any corporation wants to buy AI trained on each customer like a harness on each horse.
- t_sea 3 hours agoMy TV only gets internet access when there is a firmware update I care about
- killerstorm 5 hours agoFFS. When I bought LG OLED TV, it was quite snappy. A year later, it asked to update webOS. OK. Now we are crawling through molasses...
All TV software seems appears to be an absolute fucking scam.
[-]- Johanx64 4 hours agoWhy are people still connecting their TVs to the internet?
I thought this is already common wisdom for people in tech for decades to NEVER connect your TV to the internet, not even once.
[-]- dsp_person 28 minutes agoit's pretty tempting when it's one of the few ways to watch 4k netflix and the likes
- QuantumFunnel 3 hours agoAnd this is exactly why I never connect my TV to wifi
- dankwizard 5 hours agoThank god, the sooner we start to appreciate the wide spread adoption of AI the sooner we can start being more productive.
A TV is the perfect place to introduce AI in terms of giving me content I should actually enjoy, and answering any questions I may have about what I'm watching. Kudos to LG for being the first.
[-]- kaftoy 1 hour agoSure, but there is a prioritization system involved where the highest payer gets pushed first. So the AI may detemine you like X, but if the buyer only showing Y, you'll get to see ads for Y and no X.
- nirav72 5 hours agoThis is clippy’s revenge on the world.
- luxuryballs 6 hours agoI have an OLED from them that’s 5 years old or so now, I have never once updated it or used any of the software beyond switching inputs and screen/color settings. It’s sad if it sounds like it’s getting to the point where you can’t just use a screen as a dumb screen as an option, I never minded smart features… as long as I never had to use them.
- ChrisArchitect 5 hours ago[dupe] Discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46255335
- option 6 hours agoTell you everything about how MS co-pilot is useful.
- nextworddev 6 hours agoMr Anderson…
- dev1ycan 6 hours agoI recently bought a $250 Zojurishi rice cooker because I wanted quality, durability and no "trade offs" I am going to start buying more and more Japanese electronics if US and South Korean companies keep colluding with each other in inserting garbage.
Samsung is already preloading intelligence service software and "365 copilot" into their phones to trick old people into paying for a subscription to open a PDF (it sets itself as a default app).
At this point it's a war against the consumer.
And it's not just this, they are slowly phasing out consumer hardware (GPU price increase, RAM, non NVME SSDs, etc.) in an effort to make hardware ownership impossible thus creating a "Market" for the post bubble burst of AI where they will be renting out PC hardware (all these datacenters that they are building which will be useless).
This is US led and also conveniently both the US and South Korea are involved, as they shut down China (both GPUs and RAM manufacturers in China were blacklisted).
It's not a coincidence, I Imagine the threats of potential tariffs if they do not comply does not help with their "independent thinking".
[-]- qwerpy 5 minutes agoSony TVs are not much better, I had to do quite a bit of work to de-Google mine. This was years ago, I'm sure it's even worse now.
- hyperadvanced 6 hours agoIronically, Apple stands apart from basically all of these trends. We will see if they profit or perish because of it.
- akomtu 6 hours agoSadly, the only thing that AI really excels at is: AI spyware + AI slop generator (ads).
- mindreframer 6 hours agoomg... THEY really want to push those AI AGENTS down our throats... Freaking weirdos. FUCK MICROSOFT.