Sopwith – 1984 Game (2000)(sopwith.org)

72 points by elvis70 6 hours ago | 33 comments

  • NikolaNovak 4 hours ago
    One of first games I ever played at my dad's work when I was probably 6 or 7 years old. I've always enjoyed flight Sims, understanding this dubiously qualifies :). I've enjoyed the strategic aspect of fuel and bomb management and while the ai is simple, it provided a challenge.

    I now have kids of my own; over the winter I setup an old laptop with old games, and started introducing them chronologically to games like Sopwith, Paratrooper, Alley Cat etc.

    My 6 year olds son comment on this game in his journal:

    "I like: everything. I don't like: nothing."

    Took me a second to not over interpret the seeming double negative :-)

    Update : years later I played wings of fury on my cousin's amiga 500 ; far better game but not the same magic :)

  • abroun_beholder 2 hours ago
    I loved Sopwith as a child and back in 2004 I made my own version 'Camel' as a homage to Sopwith https://sopwithcamel.sourceforge.net/ to get myself a job in the games industry. Hard to compete with the original though. :)
  • danw1979 4 hours ago
    The first time I ever saw a PC it was running Sopwith. Must have been 1989. I loved the game, but it was this exotic new machine that really interested me. It had 5.25” floppies, probably a 286 and quite an old machine by then.

    I had only used Z80/128k machines up to then. My dad had an Amstrad 6128, with those 3” “hard” floppies, sturdy, with a decent thick metal gate.

    This PC was a very different beast. I remember being confused about the disks. They seemed weak and unprotected ! you could literally see that delicate magnetic surface through the opening. I had always been told never to touch it, but there it was, just asking to be touched…

  • Sharlin 3 hours ago
    The classic Sopwith clone from the golden days of the Finnish shareware game scene, Triplane Turmoil, turns thirty this year. It was open sourced in 2009 and community-ported to more modern platforms via SDL. Was a lot of fun back in the days of shared-keyboard multiplayer.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triplane_Turmoil

  • emmelaich 9 minutes ago
    Great game. I was hoping for a webgl/wasm version but oh well.
  • digitalsushi 1 hour ago
    I got sopwith.exe from my uncle's "big blue disks" subscription. plus a lot of other racy games an 8 year old shouldn't have played.

    I tried playing a copy on a modern computer and the game started and finished on its own in about 1/4 of a second! i'm not that fast anymore!

    I got very good at dropping the bomb while upside down and then flipping and getting outta there. i was also obsessed with disney's tale spin and imagined it was the seaduck.

  • pan69 4 hours ago
    I remember playing this on my families Olivetti M24. It was very difficult. Maybe because the game was speed sensitive and the M24 was an 8086 running 8Mhz. Good times nonetheless.
  • bananaboy 2 hours ago
    Like many others here I played this a lot when young on my dad’s PC. I remember finding it really hard to play at the time!
  • qingcharles 1 hour ago
    One of the PC games that worked great on the sorta-PC 186 RM Nimbus which a lot of British schools had in the 80s and 90s.
  • jedberg 4 hours ago
    I played this on the original IBM PC. (Un)fortunately, my dad got the 8MHz upgrade, so the game was really hard, because it was built for a 4MHz clock.

    Luckily someone eventually realeased a DOS utility that would fake a 4MHz clock by making everything take two cycles.

    Good times. :)

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    • hencq 4 hours ago
      I think ours had a turbo button that would double/half the clock speed. Good times indeed :)
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      • jedberg 4 hours ago
        I seem to recall that the turbo button didn't come along until the 80286, but some of the PC clones had them before that.

        My 486 definitely had a turbo button (that was the one I built after using the original PC for so many years).

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        • hencq 2 hours ago
          Hmm, maybe my memory is betraying me. I remember our first family computer was an XT and then later we had a 386. Maybe I'm misremembering and it was the 386 that had the turbo button or maybe the earlier one was a clone. My first own PC was a 486 as well that I built together with my dad. Good memories.
        • vasac 4 hours ago
          The Turbo button worked wonders for Tetris. You start it with turbo turned on, so Tetris adjusts to the computer’s speed - but it only does this once, at startup. As soon as the blocks start falling, you turn the turbo off, and now your Tetris runs at half speed. I even managed, a few times, to roll over a score of 32,768 (ah, those signed integers).
  • kkotak 1 hour ago
    Reminds me of Defender, a faster version with a 'Smart Bomb!' that was so fun to use :)
  • nikolay 3 hours ago
    I've spent endless hours playing Sopwith! What a legend!
  • stephenhuey 4 hours ago
    Discovered this on an old Apple 2 in the 90s. Loved the basic physics of things like flying inverted or flying down low and then releasing a bomb while pulling up into a steep climb so the bomb would fly more laterally to a target.
  • waltbosz 4 hours ago
    I was just thinking of this game last night. I was wondering if AI could take the ASM and convert it into a browser game. Playable w/o DOSBOX.
  • NooneAtAll3 5 hours ago
    I fondly remember what essentially is a more modern clone of Sopwith - "Pe-2 diving bomber"

    It is fun. Shoot-bomb-rearm/refuel in missions, upgrade your plane in between

  • jesse_dot_id 5 hours ago
    This is the first computer game I remember playing on my brother's Commodore Colt. I was very bad at it.
  • ChrisArchitect 3 hours ago
    More info on the SDL Sopwith port project https://fragglet.github.io/sdl-sopwith/
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    • nikolay 3 hours ago
      That's an outstanding port! Kudos!
  • migueldeicaza 4 hours ago
    Did the site get slashdotted?
  • justinhj 5 hours ago
    This game was so fun. I think there's a lot of unexplored game design in this style of 2d aviation.

    The multiplayer game Altitude was a good modern example.

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    • sheiyei 4 hours ago
      We had an awesome split screen dogfighting game on a Win98 PC where everyone had a Spitfire-like plane and tried to take the others down. You could land at your base and heal etc. Super fun. I think it was called Iron Birds? Don't think I've found it since.
    • jauntywundrkind 5 hours ago
      Lufteauser is a bigger space & higher motion, but has hit some good vibes for me, in this zone. Single player.

      We were always begging the daycare to let us play this. Very solid.

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    • lstodd 4 hours ago
      Highfleet is nice.
  • FpUser 1 hour ago
    What a memory. I loved game.
  • pavel_lishin 2 hours ago
    I remember playing this game on my dad's computer, and being largely baffled at what I was supposed to do. Shoot, drop bombs, of course - but how do I land, refuel, how do the points work?

    Still a core memory, though.

  • contingencies 4 hours ago
    Superior successor was Wings of Fury. The DOS version.

    Honorable mention: Choplifter. Gameboy.

  • fwip 3 hours ago
    As a small kid, I learned how to use the DOS command line to launch this game on my parents' PC. I also remember really enjoying Sopwith 2, which added cows, among other things.
  • AFF87 4 hours ago
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